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Hi,
I just “discovered” that your new version has started to see the light of the day :-)!
Gz!
When you have first versions of your new players – I’d be interested to see them and may be try to port them to 6809 assembler again – for Vectrex use.
Thx
Malban
I don’t know if you planed it anyway (the sources sort of suggest it) – but is it possible to export songs (in the different possible types) also as assembler source?
That would make conversion to 6809 much easier (big endian <-> little endian) – and also make the songs probably much more easily relocatable for anyone else… Since the
“hardcoded” base address could be realized as a simple “define” of sorts.Malban
Ok.
STOP
Perhaps I should look at the thing befor making suggestions 🙂
Source export is in.And I can’t edit old messages on the forum.
So – for now just forget that I wrote anything 🙂
Hi !
I didn’t contact you because I wanted indeed to finish all the players, but here you are anyway :).
I’m almost finished with the Generic Player. However, it is very complex and it will not be easy to adapt it to Vectrex. I suggest you to either adapt the Lightweight player (which is slightly less powerful as the one from AT1, that you already converted), or convert the AKY player, which is very easy to adapt. However, the music are also quite lengthy, which may be problematic for the Vectrex, I don’t know.
The generic player will be, due to its complexity, about 3kb, but the generated music is slightly less that the ones from AT1.
Just adding some support for usage of your tracker software with the Vectrex, especially with Malban’s VIDE software that I also use.
I downloaded Arkos today and played with it a bit, it’s excellent and at some point I’d like to use it for one or more future Vectrex programs I have in mind.
One small feature request, please add a capability for mapping a US or UK Dvorak keyboard – I don’t have QWERTY, I have ‘,.pyf 🙂 If it’s possible to remap the keys manually and take an extract from registry for backup, I suppose that would do, I couldn’t see any ini files being changed when I was experimenting with settings.
Great software, thanks for making it available!
PPhhiilllliipp E*a*t*o*n in real life!
Hi,
You can remap all the keys in the File > Settings > Keyboard menu.
The settings are stored, on windows, in “/AppData/Romaing/ArkosTracker2″. But as for the keyboard strokes, only diffs are stored, so unless you change them, you won’t seem them in the properties file (a bit of a paradox…). Maybe I can find about the mapping of such keyboard and apply it, but it’s going to be a bit hazardous to test, as I don’t have such keyboard :). As for the Vectrex player, Malban has I guessed paused the development of a player, but another guy is working on it, so you may have a player some day :).
OK, I remapped all the keys to Dvorak manually, it’s not actually that difficult when you get started and I was able to find the .properties file and see all the updates it made. It’s only the Virtual Keyboard I needed to remap.
As far as I can tell from Malban’s VIDE manual here http://vectrex.malban.de/preliminary/ and in this YouTube video https://youtu.be/6WY7rtcstnM, it already can import a binary Arkos music file and convert it to something that will play on the Vectrex. (Although it shows the original Arkos Tracker, not Arkos Tracker 2, perhaps there is a difference?)
Yes, there is a huge difference, AT and AT2 are two different software. You can import AT songs into AT2, but the player used by VIDE is the conversion of the AT’s player, not AT2. So you can’t use you AT2’s song on Vectrex for now! You can still find AT somewhere and compose on it, but it’s not as good as AT2 (of course :)). Either use AT or wait for the AT2’s player conversion!
Thanks for the AT/AT2 info. I’m nowhere near ready to use either at the moment really, I still have lots of other 6809 & Vectrex learning to do first. When the time comes, maybe the choice will be different!
I’m quite new to music creation and sound chips, apart from playing a bit with the SID in the ’80s and then playing a bit of guitar in the ’90s.
The SID had ADSR functionality in hardware, from what I can tell, the AY chip doesn’t, but it looks like you’re implementing ADSR with software, is that correct? Does that mean you have to write a lot more data to the AY than you would to the SID to make all that happen? I assume the players you have takes care of that.
What is the difference in functionality between AT and AT2? Is it just easier to use with a more modern interface and better general functionality or does it target more advanced players and thus has more advanced functionality that allows you to create more advanced compositions?
PPhhiilllliipp E*a*t*o*n in real life!
ADSR is indeed managed while you create your instrument, by creating your own waveform. I personally think it is better than conventional ADSR, as you can make crazy/more original curves, which is a feature often overlooked by musicians.
AT is old, less reliable, works only on Windows (with .net), and is not supported at all anymore. If it works for you, fine, but I will not fix anything if you find bugs. The only thing AT2 is missing – for now – from AT is the copy/paste functionality… and the Vectrex player. And of course AT2 is more user-friendly, more powerful and is still heavily developed.
Don’t hesitate to have a go at AT, you can still import its songs to AT2 if you want to make the switch later.
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